WEBVTT X-TIMESTAMP-MAP=MPEGTS:90000,LOCAL:00:00:00.000 1 00:00:18.300 --> 00:00:21.300 hello and welcome to the truth about cars podcast I am to be the 2 00:00:21.300 --> 00:00:24.699 managing editor and this week we talked about Hyundai's Evie future 3 00:00:24.699 --> 00:00:30.800 with the automaker's Dan Langan miles Johnson and get another 4 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:34.899 NASCAR photo finish this time of Kansas all that and more on this 5 00:00:34.899 --> 00:00:38.299 week's to Tech podcast. on the truth about cars podcast 6 00:00:38.299 --> 00:00:41.200 respective segments every week talking about the stuff that we 7 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:45.000 use in our homes in our cars and on our cars as the case may be 8 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:50.399 tools cleaning products and the like and we had to die with us to 9 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:55.200 do so Matthew how are you not bad how are you doing I'm well I'm 10 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:58.799 well so let's get into it you said you did some work on your brakes 11 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:05.099 brakes on a vehicle yesterday and I thought it would be a good topic 12 00:01:05.099 --> 00:01:10.299 for for today's podcast because it's definitely the type of tasks 13 00:01:10.299 --> 00:01:13.200 that is a little bit more involved in some of the other wrench in 14 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:16.299 things that we talked about you know changing the oil and changing 15 00:01:16.299 --> 00:01:18.900 cabin filters and stuff like that like those are really good things 16 00:01:18.900 --> 00:01:22.400 to start off with if you're just getting used to wrenching on your 17 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:26.099 vehicle breaks a little bit more involved but you've ghetto games 18 00:01:26.099 --> 00:01:30.900 with confidence by doing some more of the simple tasks and then also 19 00:01:30.900 --> 00:01:35.799 leaned on some other resources online for familiarity with what 20 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:39.200 you're diving into. it's not in most cases super super 21 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:43.799 complicated at Lisa just swallowed some brake pads so I thought I'd 22 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:47.299 just talk about some general tool General tips and some general 23 00:01:47.299 --> 00:01:51.500 tools that I was using on this vehicle, I was doing brake pads 24 00:01:51.500 --> 00:01:56.799 all around and so just pick them up at the local parts store it was 25 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.799 like 34 bucks right for a sed rate as they're so cheap these days 26 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:04.099 probably about the only thing that relates the cars that is 27 00:02:04.099 --> 00:02:16.099 Affordable and. it's important when you go into 28 00:02:16.099 --> 00:02:21.000 the shop where you go to your favorite online website to buy 29 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.800 Auto Parts to know that when you look into brake pads you'll have 30 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.500 to be presented with a whole bunch of different options for your car 31 00:02:26.500 --> 00:02:30.400 and of course this assumes that you've punched in the correct 32 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:36.099 model year you know what to make for model even the trim and it's 33 00:02:36.099 --> 00:02:40.000 important to get all of these details right when you're buying 34 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.800 brake pads because they can be very very different on the 35 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:47.099 Challenger for example I'm the Challenger has a Brembo brake 36 00:02:47.099 --> 00:02:53.099 option from the factory and those pads are really different than the 37 00:02:53.099 --> 00:02:57.300 pads for cars that do not have that option so just make sure you 38 00:02:57.300 --> 00:03:00.300 got the right stuff before you before you start tearing into it 39 00:03:00.300 --> 00:03:04.199 and taken stuff apart with your tools but once you're in there I 40 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:08.800 know you got the brake pads. it's generally pretty yet it's 41 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:11.599 generally a pretty simple child a lot of the ones the ones that I 42 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:14.400 was working with it was just a small Economy Car belonging to 43 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:19.800 someone else and these brake pads you don't need to remove the 44 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:23.800 caliper some Vehicles you need to take the caliper off altogether 45 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.300 and then you're looking at the calendar upside down almost like 46 00:03:27.300 --> 00:03:31.500 an upside-down loaf of bread and then the pads slide up from the 47 00:03:31.500 --> 00:03:34.699 bottom that's one way to do it another way that some Brands will 48 00:03:34.699 --> 00:03:38.099 do it just the caliper itself stays on the big bracket but there 49 00:03:38.099 --> 00:03:44.900 are two generally a 9/16 bolt you would remove want to loosen up the 50 00:03:44.900 --> 00:03:48.900 other and then the top of the of the caliper just swings up and I 51 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:53.400 like those a lot more because the last stuff you need to remove the 52 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:58.599 less chance there is a round at a bolt or break something that you 53 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:02.500 really don't want to break right right and then in this instance 54 00:04:02.500 --> 00:04:05.000 you just slid the slid the pads out. 55 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.900 from against their home where they used to be on the rotor and I'm I 56 00:04:10.900 --> 00:04:14.599 like that more because another I guess word of advice for people 57 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:18.800 who are doing brakes and if you do need to remove the brake caliper 58 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:23.399 make sure you don't let the brake caliper hang by its hose there 59 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:26.699 will always be a hydraulic hose going from the brake system to the 60 00:04:26.699 --> 00:04:30.500 brake caliper and you don't want to put any undue stress or strain 61 00:04:30.500 --> 00:04:34.600 on that hose because it might tear it might get damaged in some way 62 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.500 because those calipers are not like you know even if they are 3/4 63 00:04:38.500 --> 00:04:45.399 lb hydraulic hose and you don't want that because you ain't got a 64 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:47.399 whole new set of problems your brakes are going to. 65 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:51.600 not work properly a fluid is going to be okay with all that type of 66 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:55.600 stuff so but I'd like to try to do is take an old metal coat hanger 67 00:04:55.600 --> 00:05:00.100 or piece of twine or something like that and just support the 68 00:05:00.100 --> 00:05:04.000 brake caliper off of the are generally are just tied to the 69 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:07.500 suspension spring that's a lie right there above it so he says 70 00:05:07.500 --> 00:05:14.100 yeah right trick for a for brakes just cuz it's fresh on my mind 71 00:05:14.100 --> 00:05:20.199 this one that had definitely was in dire need of brake pads so we 72 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:24.899 definitely had the two with hydraulic brakes in the front you 73 00:05:24.899 --> 00:05:28.199 can just imagine that there are ball on all four corners but there 74 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.699 are going to be at least one piston that will hydraulically 75 00:05:31.699 --> 00:05:35.899 push its way out when you apply brake pedal bike so I just had to 76 00:05:35.899 --> 00:05:39.699 be clap my hands together and I was as if anyone can see me 77 00:05:39.699 --> 00:05:41.800 pretending. 78 00:05:45.699 --> 00:05:49.699 and when you do that have a braking system works is one of the 79 00:05:49.699 --> 00:05:52.399 things that happens when you push on the brake pedal is that the 80 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:58.100 piston in the caliper pushes your brake pads towards the brake rotor 81 00:05:58.100 --> 00:06:01.300 and then the whole unit slows down that's how you carry those that so 82 00:06:01.300 --> 00:06:06.000 naturally there's not going to be as much room in there at the 83 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.199 caliper piston is going to be pushed out a little bit because as 84 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:12.600 the brake pads we're supposed to needs to move a little bit further 85 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:18.600 so generally on cars out front you can use a C-clamp in a bit of wood 86 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:22.600 to make sure as barrier so that you don't damage anything to push 87 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:28.399 that piston back into the caliper and on the rear of most cars 88 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.800 because of the the handbrake generally there's a mechanical or 89 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:36.399 electric hand break that one has to wear one has on their car I 90 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:41.600 don't know the Pistons in those calipers gym early screw it almost 91 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:45.699 like if you're unscrewing a.m.. a Fastener from the wall or 92 00:06:45.699 --> 00:06:50.100 something like that so you can't just you can not done this look 93 00:06:50.100 --> 00:06:53.600 very first set of brakes I did decades ago right I was trying to 94 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:57.899 push that piston back in push all my might to call constables not 95 00:06:57.899 --> 00:07:02.100 working why because you have to screw them back in just like that 96 00:07:02.100 --> 00:07:07.699 into a wall and a lot of car companies with an eye to 97 00:07:07.699 --> 00:07:12.199 serviceability will have a couple of notches in that piston and 98 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:14.399 couple different ways you can buy special tools that we talked about 99 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:18.500 this one time on the cast of a month or two ago I guess we can 100 00:07:18.500 --> 00:07:22.899 buy an actual tool that fits over this Universal that whole bunch of 101 00:07:22.899 --> 00:07:26.899 different knobs on it extensions on and then you can just crank it 102 00:07:26.899 --> 00:07:31.000 down using that tool fits into the slots but I was using a yesterday 103 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:34.600 a 70 nose pliers and they fit into those two. 104 00:07:35.500 --> 00:07:39.699 notches in the bee piston of this particular car pretty well then 105 00:07:39.699 --> 00:07:44.600 just turn the pliers around clockwise and then it screws that 106 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:48.899 piston back in to Via into the caliper so with those you know 107 00:07:48.899 --> 00:07:53.100 sort of tips under your belt the wealth of knowledge has out there 108 00:07:53.100 --> 00:07:58.399 on YouTube research if you can see all the stuff on YouTube for just 109 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.699 about every car repair and especially if you're renting on 110 00:08:01.699 --> 00:08:05.300 your own it's probably on your own car by the time it needs brakes 111 00:08:05.300 --> 00:08:10.000 it's probably going to be a pretty common car you know people have 112 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:12.899 done the job before it's what I'm trying to say you're not the first 113 00:08:12.899 --> 00:08:15.500 one to put brakes on a b type of card which you are working 114 00:08:15.500 --> 00:08:18.399 generally speaking unless there are Engineers listening to a 115 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:24.000 podcast for working on prototypes I hope they are so but I just have 116 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.000 a listeners would appreciate some some tips and tricks and at least 117 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.500 if nothing else get you started on your journey for finding a bit 118 00:08:31.500 --> 00:08:34.100 more spoons make and model specific information given you 119 00:08:34.100 --> 00:08:36.799 some Search terms to use. when you're looking for a bit of 120 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:39.700 detail. make sense as anything else you 121 00:08:39.700 --> 00:08:43.299 might want to come to the brakes or I need any safety issues that 122 00:08:43.299 --> 00:08:46.299 we have already covered give you that you need to or want to go 123 00:08:46.299 --> 00:08:51.899 over the basic safety thing you know for in terms of keeping your 124 00:08:51.899 --> 00:08:57.399 sanity is making making sure you have the correct Parts before you 125 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:59.600 leave the parts store or before you hit check it out on the 126 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:02.799 website. makes sense all right so we've had 127 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:07.700 Matthew guy talking to us about brake jobs here on the truth about 128 00:09:07.700 --> 00:09:10.500 cars podcast thank you Matthew thanks very much too. 129 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:30.399 on this week's truth about cars podcast we are in Savannah Georgia 130 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:38.799 with Dan Lang from Hyundai is a senior manager of Advance Auto 131 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:45.100 Plant in Hyundai I-95 and I need 9 so either one of you gentlemen can 132 00:09:45.100 --> 00:09:48.299 Enlighten us out of the metal plant works first of all why is it 133 00:09:48.299 --> 00:09:53.700 called the metal plant comes from the fact that the facility 134 00:09:53.700 --> 00:10:15.700 transcends the future is very bright for the facility plan on 135 00:10:15.700 --> 00:10:20.899 that facility the transcends the name a little bit in the fact that 136 00:10:20.899 --> 00:10:25.700 there's multiple battery plant Subway plants. 137 00:10:27.299 --> 00:10:40.500 things being manufactured on one campus Vance assembly plan in 138 00:10:40.500 --> 00:10:44.600 terms of the amount of Robotics that are inside the facility I 139 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:48.000 think he saw that today the robots moving to pick the car up and move 140 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:54.000 them around I think the fact that it's only making V's at this point 141 00:10:54.000 --> 00:11:00.200 in time movie in the car business or the car World ahead with future 142 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:04.100 powertrains the facility will have vehicles at the hybrids in the 143 00:11:04.100 --> 00:11:08.500 future that will be produced there but the future is very bright for 144 00:11:08.500 --> 00:11:17.299 the facility guys people are afraid of losing their jobs to AI 145 00:11:17.299 --> 00:11:21.799 but this plant obviously Auto makes more jobs that other plans 146 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:27.000 may be using humans for so how do you balance creating jobs here in. 147 00:11:27.299 --> 00:11:31.000 with the fact that some of the plants processes are pretty highly 148 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.700 automated I would say any automation front you're taking the 149 00:11:35.700 --> 00:11:41.000 toughest jobs and automating them so just you saw at the end of the 150 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.899 line there were people used to have to jump in and out of the 151 00:11:43.899 --> 00:11:49.899 cars to move them to the railheads repeat the process over and over 152 00:11:49.899 --> 00:11:54.299 and over again so the automation is taking some of the toughest 153 00:11:54.299 --> 00:12:03.799 jobs and then that allows the employee's tasks to be going 154 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:08.700 forward Atlas the robot is the start the consumer electronic show 155 00:12:08.700 --> 00:12:13.700 it has applications and doing some things like sorting Parts it's a 156 00:12:13.700 --> 00:12:21.100 big 6ft robot weighs 200 lb of can do certain tasks that the human 157 00:12:21.100 --> 00:12:25.500 would have trouble doing repetitively over and over again 158 00:12:25.500 --> 00:12:30.600 so. that automation is coming but it's 159 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:39.700 meant to augment those the workforce that stare know that you 160 00:12:39.700 --> 00:12:43.700 guys can't come at too much of a future product we also this 161 00:12:43.700 --> 00:12:46.399 podcast is going to go live before a certain apart cupcakes we can't 162 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:52.000 talk about a specific product just yet but just in general this this 163 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:57.100 mother plant and then Hyundai's any future plans 33% I think you 164 00:12:57.100 --> 00:13:05.299 said was Hyundai EV sales or excuse me if I truck I believe so 165 00:13:05.299 --> 00:13:07.299 is that correct. 166 00:13:15.299 --> 00:13:20.000 I think if you look at our lineup we're covering all the bases and 167 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.399 offering a broad variety of options today so we've got 168 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:29.399 traditional ice or internal combustion engines we've got the 169 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:35.100 hybrid we've got plug-in hybrid and of course we've got the PT vs 170 00:13:35.100 --> 00:13:39.200 with a full electric TVs with the eye on a 59 in particular for 171 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.799 lineup. at least for the foreseeable 172 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:46.500 future we want to continue to offer choice to our consumers 173 00:13:46.500 --> 00:13:53.600 because an Eevee may not suit everyone in all situations would 174 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:57.500 like to be able to offer the choice that will meet the consumer 175 00:13:57.500 --> 00:13:59.700 for what they need in terms of Mobility. 176 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.399 yeah and so I guess I'm trying to figure out a way to phrase this 177 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.000 but how are how is he supposed to be interesting and you and I had a 178 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:12.500 conversation off like a little bit about charging availability or 179 00:14:12.500 --> 00:14:15.200 like a charge availability and how there is still a sticking point 180 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:19.100 for a lot of potentially be contenders even with better range 181 00:14:19.100 --> 00:14:23.899 these days other than offering and offer and turn off the bus and 182 00:14:23.899 --> 00:14:27.000 engines and hybrids I was heading this way of addressing those needs 183 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:30.600 our customers who may be our evening and tender but either 184 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.799 because it's charging or range anxiety or that sort of thing. 185 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:38.600 well I think the most recent announcement that we've made as 186 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:45.100 part of our effort in the charging network with Iona and with Circle 187 00:14:45.100 --> 00:14:51.500 K we're offering another set of network infrastructure in addition 188 00:14:51.500 --> 00:14:55.500 to the Tesla supercharging that work that we have Electrify 189 00:14:55.500 --> 00:15:00.399 America and chargepoint month-to-month there's going to be 190 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:04.799 better and better coverage as far as infrastructure and charging 191 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:12.399 from a vehicle standpoint that we also offer and a home as an 192 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:16.899 opportunity to charge with electric vehicle Supply equipment 193 00:15:16.899 --> 00:15:23.200 inside house and Beyond what we're really trying to do is offer the 194 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:29.399 alternative to a b e v which would be the interim step as a plug-in 195 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:34.200 hybrid or even a hybrid. has Sunday seen any drop-off and 196 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:37.399 eating intention with the with the reduction with the elimination 197 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:44.000 excuse me up the TV tax credit. let me know on that front I think 198 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:48.600 we continue to offer very very compelling products that has gas 199 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:52.399 prices of spiked a little bit we saw a little more interested 5 + 200 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:59.799 95 is selling extremely well it was up last month 13% so is the 201 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:03.799 interest out there yes we did a repricing on the island at 5 I 202 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:09.500 think T-Tech cover that it's been very very successful and then 203 00:16:09.500 --> 00:16:14.000 we're managing our costs so we were able to to make the price and 204 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:19.899 compelling on the I-95 it's a dynamite product as well as the 92 205 00:16:19.899 --> 00:16:23.799 I think we're doubling down our efforts and showing off the new 206 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:30.799 assembly plant this week is just another example that was in the 207 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:35.100 works long before the 2024 election so I'd better than mine 208 00:16:35.100 --> 00:16:39.100 but how does having a new plant in the states near play when it comes 209 00:16:39.100 --> 00:16:45.200 to tariffs. since Trump won in is the key 210 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.899 we've said that from the very beginning had a very very 211 00:16:48.899 --> 00:16:59.799 successful and now we're on our second act here in Georgia with 212 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:06.200 the men of the future is very very bright for what the capacity and 213 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:10.000 it's about American jobs hiring Americans to work in that factory 214 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:20.700 overseas or in Canada is that really affected Hyundai at all or 215 00:17:20.700 --> 00:17:23.599 is it because so many cars are built in South and built-in States 216 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:31.799 not been too much of an issue in the goal is to get to 80% of the 217 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:38.599 car sold in the US will be manufactured in the US so process 218 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:44.400 of localization is is taking place. do the impact of the tariffs was 219 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:49.900 there but we're working towards the long-term I'm going to ask Dan 220 00:17:49.900 --> 00:17:52.299 or miles to put on your crystal ball for just a second and. 221 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:58.900 obviously Evie's have grown in the market share took stuff back in 222 00:17:58.900 --> 00:18:01.700 the growing again a little bit and I'll just see this external 223 00:18:01.700 --> 00:18:06.500 factors you can control such as fuel prices tax credits or or lack 224 00:18:06.500 --> 00:18:10.500 thereof it's our thing just overall without giving away any 225 00:18:10.500 --> 00:18:16.799 Market overall going over the next five to ten years growth Weiss 226 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:25.000 I'll take a stab at it first then I don't foresee a dramatic. 227 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:31.500 change in the near term for EZ market demand you know we've seen 228 00:18:31.500 --> 00:18:37.700 some of the early adopters get their Eevees right now we're at 229 00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:43.900 the stage where we're approaching the later phases of the early 230 00:18:43.900 --> 00:18:48.700 adopters and maybe the early parts of the mainstream adopters and 231 00:18:48.700 --> 00:18:52.000 those that the tougher segments where we've got a really 232 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:56.099 understand what their needs are and and meet them for for what 233 00:18:56.099 --> 00:19:02.700 they want so the mass Market tends to be a bit more careful with also 234 00:19:02.700 --> 00:19:07.500 seen a rise in in prices of Eevee's so it's starting to become 235 00:19:07.500 --> 00:19:13.299 a little bit tougher as far as a purchasing a vehicle maybe in the 236 00:19:13.299 --> 00:19:19.700 mid to long-term we might be able to see greater adoption of Eevee's 237 00:19:19.700 --> 00:19:22.900 but I think a lot of it is going to be contingent upon a couple 238 00:19:22.900 --> 00:19:25.700 things and restructure home charging. 239 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:28.900 and then also just the overall price of the vehicle driven by a 240 00:19:28.900 --> 00:19:33.500 battery cost so we can get those down we should be able to see a 241 00:19:33.500 --> 00:19:37.400 greater adoption of Eevee's that will also hopefully keep Pace with 242 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:44.799 infrastructure growth in places like Florida and Texas those are 243 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:52.700 states that we do well in those States in California obviously is 244 00:19:52.700 --> 00:19:56.599 always been a hotspot for Evie's but just looking at the eye on a 245 00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:59.900 map that we showed in the briefing will see those stations are 246 00:19:59.900 --> 00:20:03.400 popping up and and key markets in Florida and Texas like that so 247 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:06.900 that's where you'll see us double down our efforts in the near-term 248 00:20:06.900 --> 00:20:12.700 and then long-term are forecasting is showing it will be flat for a 249 00:20:12.700 --> 00:20:18.700 year or so but then V's will continue to rise they offer a 250 00:20:18.700 --> 00:20:24.500 compelling solution the average driver uses at 35 miles a day 251 00:20:24.500 --> 00:20:28.200 that's easily. stopping off at home if you invest 252 00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:33.000 in a 220 volt charger in your home which isn't terribly expensive so 253 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:43.599 yeah okay then something let's see what's in this interview with what 254 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:49.000 you showed me you are so obviously has already said publicly that the 255 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.299 previews a pickup truck I guess who I had a couple questions one 256 00:20:52.299 --> 00:20:55.200 of which I probably know the answer to but will we see you in a 257 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:59.799 few detours and all the Boulder and I'll close the will Whatever 258 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.099 Gets billed for there's a truck if you're both how close he will it 259 00:21:03.099 --> 00:21:07.500 take you to the concepts tiling and is there anything you can 260 00:21:07.500 --> 00:21:18.599 share spec-wise 20-30 that is 100% of gold project so what is 261 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.900 body-on-frame what you do I mean you can certainly do different 262 00:21:21.900 --> 00:21:25.700 things with body-on-frame and terms of the sizes and then. 263 00:21:25.700 --> 00:21:31.500 you know whether you do all kinds of different is a bigger or 264 00:21:31.500 --> 00:21:36.700 smaller is it more off-road is a less off-road it gives you so many 265 00:21:36.700 --> 00:21:42.599 options to the boulder concept was kind of boring is a little bit 266 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:53.500 bigger than studying whether you go bigger Eagle smaller but once 267 00:21:53.500 --> 00:21:58.099 you have the body on frame architecture allows you to reach 268 00:21:58.099 --> 00:22:02.500 out to those faces I do think they're very very established 269 00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:06.799 players in the truck segment in the pickup truck segment so that 270 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:10.500 is going to be our very very first focus is to go after those buyers 271 00:22:10.500 --> 00:22:15.400 we learned a lot with the Santa Santa Cruz which I love my Santa 272 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.799 Cruz but we learned a lot from that suit first application is the 273 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:23.000 truck and then once you have the body on frame architecture in your 274 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:25.700 in your quiver soda thing you can do. 275 00:22:25.700 --> 00:22:27.400 all kinds of different things within so. 276 00:22:28.700 --> 00:22:32.400 we like the response so far on Boulder The Styling cues but 277 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:38.099 whether we go with an SUV that hasn't been decided yet does the 278 00:22:38.099 --> 00:22:39.700 boulder mean anything for Santa Cruz. 279 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:47.599 well Santa Santa Cruz is is at the end of its life cycle and I think 280 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.799 a body on frame vehicle will be a little bit more compelling in 281 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:55.799 terms of what you're able to do with it in terms of capabilities 282 00:22:55.799 --> 00:23:00.799 multiple trim levels at different price points can do more extreme 283 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.500 off-road things but then you can also make it more capable from a 284 00:23:04.500 --> 00:23:08.299 standpoint whether it's a work truck or maybe it's just a sport 285 00:23:08.299 --> 00:23:14.200 truck as well but the longer bed will be much more attractive for a 286 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.799 wider set of buyers and I think Body and Frame is what people 287 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:25.200 expect in that segment excellent so the managing editor we are here 288 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:28.200 with Dan Lang in Miles Johnson to Southside of Savannah Georgia 289 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:34.700 traveling I-95 and I need to end as well as we turned the Hyundai 290 00:23:34.700 --> 00:23:38.400 mediplan earlier today and for those of you who listen to spycast 291 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:42.299 when it first goes live. Hyundai news next week so stay 292 00:23:42.299 --> 00:23:45.000 tuned for that and again Dan tomorrow thank you so much for 293 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:58.400 your time I hope you had a great time for our weather like in some 294 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:06.200 drifting in that sort of thing you guys from Hyundai team and we'll 295 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:09.000 go ahead and wrap the second here I'm to throw trash pack Nest IQ. 296 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:10.400 thank you. 297 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:29.099 this week on the street cars podcast are NASCAR signal focus on 298 00:24:29.099 --> 00:24:33.799 the race at Kansas and the photo finish and asked about always 299 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:41.700 awesome man how about you I'm doing well so it was a lot of 300 00:24:41.700 --> 00:24:45.000 racing on my TV over the weekend to cop a good chunk of the imsa 301 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:49.700 race Saturday a little bit of sport cross biking it as well I 302 00:24:49.700 --> 00:24:52.000 didn't wash your clothes because I don't know this portrait really 303 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:56.500 well and then I watch the other NASCAR race at Kansas as well as 304 00:24:56.500 --> 00:25:01.500 the IndyCar Grand Prix of Long Beach following that so doesn't 305 00:25:01.500 --> 00:25:06.700 answer listeners if I mess up and mix up a detail from IndyCar and 306 00:25:06.700 --> 00:25:10.000 NASCAR watch them back-to-back and that's a lot of rain. 307 00:25:12.099 --> 00:25:15.700 about 5 or 6 hours so anyway let's talk about Matthew let's talk 308 00:25:15.700 --> 00:25:21.599 about what happened at Kansas the last lap shootout or last two laps 309 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:25.599 are there was a spin that created the first caution for cause of the 310 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:29.700 day as a back my car spun out and then Christopher Bell had been 311 00:25:29.700 --> 00:25:34.599 kind of in position to win the race even had a meeting all day to 312 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:39.299 come out of that time and we get bail his kind of it I watched a 313 00:25:39.299 --> 00:25:42.299 few times and that will try to describe it sort of kind of 314 00:25:42.299 --> 00:25:48.799 blocked and kind of got his car out of shape and he was a little 315 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.400 out of control here, can't catch it and then you lost some track 316 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.099 position and then Denny Hamlin was involved than all of a sudden Kyle 317 00:25:56.099 --> 00:25:59.700 Larson runs out with two laps to go and look like Kyle Larson was 318 00:25:59.700 --> 00:26:02.599 going to run away with it looks like it's going to run away with 319 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:07.500 it and then all of sudden Tyler it catches them and passes them and 320 00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:08.400 it's just kind of Chaos. 321 00:26:12.099 --> 00:26:16.000 and yet again you're right cuz sometimes and I'm guilty of this 322 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:20.099 more than anybody ain't just knocking on the 1.5 mile tracks is 323 00:26:20.099 --> 00:26:23.299 being cookie cutter and such and not having a ton of action and 324 00:26:23.299 --> 00:26:27.299 with that said right there were no except for the very last one. 325 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:31.500 allocation that came out there were no like Chronicles natural 326 00:26:31.500 --> 00:26:34.799 caution Sarah just the ones the competition caution said what's 327 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.299 wrong with racing and other than that. 328 00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.799 I lost you for a minute there so you may have to go ahead and just 329 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.599 restart that for our listeners be able to have difficulty sorry 330 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:51.799 about that you are glad Matthew and you were saying about 331 00:26:51.799 --> 00:27:04.099 rationing sure absolutely and sometimes I do right right there 332 00:27:04.099 --> 00:27:08.900 are no natural cautions at Kansas until the very very last thing was 333 00:27:08.900 --> 00:27:13.500 the penultimate lap actually something like that and that bunch 334 00:27:13.500 --> 00:27:16.799 of the field and we ended up getting I think everyone just 335 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.700 about everyone at that were up his up towards the front anyways that 336 00:27:20.700 --> 00:27:27.599 drove to the adult to The Pit Road for tires and there's Catholics 337 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:31.200 that was a spin on lap to 66th and Justin was just a penultimate off 338 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:34.200 the regular leaves schedule distance right and so that 339 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:38.000 incidents caused the caution which set up the overtime and Denny 340 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:42.000 Hamlin have retaken the lead from. from Reddick Reddick actually 341 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:46.799 brush the wall at one point and I was listening to this he did and I 342 00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:50.599 was listening to the radio and what not and whether that was just 343 00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:54.200 a miscalculation or I get excited seeing the next weekend coming up 344 00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:57.700 in the column because I'm in the van and and his team has five wins 345 00:27:57.700 --> 00:28:01.299 through the first nine races which is absolutely remarkable and 346 00:28:01.299 --> 00:28:04.099 there's all kinds of conspiracy theories floating around because 347 00:28:04.099 --> 00:28:08.700 course she had to 2311 winning that Monday my opinion winning the 348 00:28:08.700 --> 00:28:12.900 legal battle against NASCAR but then there's someone else rightly, 349 00:28:12.900 --> 00:28:16.700 as well the other team that was paired with that lawsuit they're 350 00:28:16.700 --> 00:28:22.099 not doing too well are they. right so if anyone's thinking that 351 00:28:22.099 --> 00:28:25.500 NASCAR is giving them extra horsepower just because as part of 352 00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:33.099 the settlement know that that's that's just silly right but I 353 00:28:33.099 --> 00:28:43.099 don't think I'll read it cuz I'm a hot streak he's on a heater that 354 00:28:43.099 --> 00:28:46.500 that that that that the track of Kansas because you have 245 355 00:28:46.500 --> 00:28:51.900 leading for 23 eleven which is owned by Denny Hamlin and then you 356 00:28:51.900 --> 00:28:57.200 also have Denny Hamlin himself who is driving for another team up 357 00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:06.200 with him at that one or two each other for always fighting for the 358 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.200 lead owns the car that he's leaving so it's going to be a 359 00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:13.000 pretty good day for Denny Hamlin no matter if he finishes first or 360 00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:16.400 second in that instance he finished fourth by the way if you 361 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:16.700 want her. 362 00:29:19.099 --> 00:29:23.000 family was top 5 I've ever seen him interview in the pits after 363 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:34.900 the race are handling car and Evan Larson cuz last time came in 364 00:29:34.900 --> 00:29:37.500 second was only the others will be tenth of a second wasn't very much 365 00:29:37.500 --> 00:29:44.900 and I do enjoy those we were talking about last week but 366 00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:49.400 watching the last 10 minutes minutes exactly right so comes 367 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:58.299 down to it last week and I thought this race and you and I both kind 368 00:29:58.299 --> 00:30:08.000 of particularly interesting to the final 15 this race was actually 369 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.799 interesting throughout I was most cuz it was clean there was some 370 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:17.000 good passing and it was it wasn't a parade of of no passing in and 371 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.299 stuff like that and I. yeah I don't know everything about 372 00:30:20.299 --> 00:30:23.200 my head that when I have to go back and read a recap if they were 373 00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:29.400 there are things happening with tires low tire pressure against 374 00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:33.700 Goodyear's instructions so that we had some tires that not quite like 375 00:30:33.700 --> 00:30:39.599 Phoenix shoes or lie on the race we had some competitive drivers 376 00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:45.400 kind of goes back in his car but I think he was still struggling I 377 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:47.599 don't think it was the vertigo attack the cards wasn't very good 378 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:59.000 so you are course you did have a good time and watch the replay if 379 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:01.400 you haven't seen them already and watch the replay NASCAR put it on 380 00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.299 social media eyes I watched it again and either Twitter or 381 00:31:04.299 --> 00:31:08.099 Facebook. either Monday or Tuesday after the 382 00:31:08.099 --> 00:31:18.900 race and you really think is going to win and see if there was just a 383 00:31:18.900 --> 00:31:27.799 lot going on so I think and. yeah I'm hoping that for the the 384 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.900 next time they're out of truck like that which will be several 385 00:31:30.900 --> 00:31:34.400 times several more times this season including the move back to 386 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.599 Chicago and in July I am really hoping that. 387 00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.599 we start seeing more racing like that when they're on these at 388 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:48.099 least your tracks so short tracks give me my last track shorts so I 389 00:31:48.099 --> 00:31:56.599 had that in my head keep NASCAR short and sweet this week still 390 00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:01.200 there were very entertaining portions to this race you know 391 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:03.099 what we've been saying forever that you don't need a lot of 392 00:32:03.099 --> 00:32:06.900 caution we don't need or want a lot of wrecks I'm but just because 393 00:32:06.900 --> 00:32:09.900 of race is almost caution free does not mean it was boring just 394 00:32:09.900 --> 00:32:13.799 like a hockey game if it ends in if it was one nothing was the 395 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:18.299 final score that doesn't mean it was a boring right if he tends to 396 00:32:18.299 --> 00:32:22.599 sure lots of seeds and then here in this instance just you hit the 397 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:28.500 nail on the head some good passing and some good strategy this one 398 00:32:28.500 --> 00:32:33.200 ended up pretty close at the end it was fun to watch and looking 399 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:34.400 forward next week to Talladega. 400 00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:44.500 I don't think they have a missing erase off the schedule I apologize 401 00:32:44.500 --> 00:33:04.900 and I have to erase and I think that is going to pick us up but 402 00:33:04.900 --> 00:33:10.299 anyway we have to be really interesting race you know I'm 403 00:33:10.299 --> 00:33:14.900 hoping we can avoid the big one with the big racks on a shoe at 404 00:33:14.900 --> 00:33:21.599 Talladega and Daytona and I saw an ad as I don't know if this was as 405 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:25.799 the broadcast was concluding if I saw it a little bit later watching 406 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:31.099 something else on Fox but Fox is marketing for a Talladega showed a 407 00:33:31.099 --> 00:33:34.700 lot of wrecks in a lot of big ones a lot of cars going flying from 408 00:33:34.700 --> 00:33:37.200 recent races there so I'm hoping we don't actually have that 409 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.900 although every every Superspeedway. the two times a year till 410 00:33:40.900 --> 00:33:44.000 Talladega Daytona those are always concerns so. 411 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:48.599 let's hope for another clean race it's also interesting and not just 412 00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:53.200 a draft parade yeah let's let's let's see what happens and see if 413 00:33:53.200 --> 00:34:00.400 I can get he's at I think 5 or 6 or 9. So that's crazy so we'll see 414 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.400 if someone else can you pick up hold this or if it's going to be 415 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:13.900 our NASCAR signature cards podcast and to our listeners. 416 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.500 thank you. that's all for this week's truth 417 00:34:22.500 --> 00:34:25.699 about cars podcast I am completely the managing editor and you can 418 00:34:25.699 --> 00:34:28.000 find us wherever you get your podcasts you can also find Us 419 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:34.699 online at tep.com that's T tag.com or three cars all out. Calm we 420 00:34:34.699 --> 00:34:37.800 think and waiting in Miles Johnson for Monday for their time and we 421 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.300 also think Matthew guy as well as Matt proske for editing most of 422 00:34:41.300 --> 00:34:44.000 all we thank you for listening we'll see you next time.